potlucks

Having people over for dinner

aura218:

realsocialskills:

dinosaurusrachelus:

realsocialskills:

One potentially enjoyable form of interaction is to have people over for dinner.

Some ways this can be good:

  • Eating together can make conversation easier
  • Since it creates an activity and a focus
  • But it doesn’t take up all the attention; you can still talk
  • Eating at home can be cheaper than going out
  • It can also be less overloading, since your place is probably less noisy than a restaurant 
  • It can also be more private, because you’re less likely to run into unwelcome people, and because there aren’t as many people around who could overhear

Some things about guests:

  • Invite people who you like
  • Invite people who like each other
  • It’s not very much fun to hang out with a group of folks who dislike one another, even if you like all of them separately
  • Don’t invite too many people. It’s much more fun to have dinner with a group of people that’s a comfortable size for you
  • It’s often considered rude to invite someone but not their partner, with two major exceptions:
  • If you’re hosting a single-gender event and their partner isn’t the relevant gender, or:
  • If you’re hosting an esoteric interest gathering and it’s something only one of them likes. (Eg: If you’re having a party for people who like to talk about spiders, it’s probably ok to not invite a partner who hate spiders)

Some points about food etiquette: 

If you are in your 20s and living in the US, it’s likely that you’re in a culture in which it’s normal for guests to bring some of the food. (This is different from a potluck, which is a communally-hosted kind of meal at which no one person has primary responsibility for making the food. I’m planning to write a different post about that later.)

If you are invited over for a meal:

  • It’s considered polite to offer to bring something
  • The most polite way to ask is to say something along the lines of “What can I bring?” because it suggests that you’re expecting to bring something rather than hoping they’ll tell you not to bring anything
  • If they say not to bring anything, don’t
  • Some people prefer that you don’t, or might have cultural or medical reasons to want control over the food that’s in their space
  • Also, in some cultures it’s considered rude, so if someone doesn’t want you to bring something, it’s important to respect that

If you are doing the inviting:

  • It’s usually considered rude to ask people to bring things if they haven’t explicitly offered to
  • If people offer, it’s ok to assume that they mean it, and to ask them to bring something
  • But be reasonable about it. Don’t ask people to bring something expensive or complicated unless you are planning the meal together and hosting jointly
  • It’s usually considered reasonable to ask someone to bring one of these things: bread, wine, salad, soda/juice, or a dessert

Some specific things about food:

  • You should make/buy a main dish that is filling and has protein of some sort
  • And also probably a side dish or two
  • And drinks of some sort - but it’s ok if it’s mostly water
  • Make sure you have enough plates/cups/knives/forks/spoons/etc for everyone
  • Find out if people you’re inviting are allergic to anything
  • If you are serving meat, find out if there are any vegetarians
  • If some people are vegetarian, it’s nice to make a vegetarian protein in addition to the main meat dish
  • But in any case, at least make sure that some things don’t contain meat (eg: don’t put bacon bits on the salad or use lard to make a pie)

This is a good kind of gathering. Are there other things people should know about how to do it?

dinosaurusrachelus said:

Depending on the type of event and the age of participants, it’s often considered polite to bring a bottle of wine even if the host says you don’t need to bring anything. It’s not a thing you have to do, but if you’re able to afford it and think it would be appreciated by the host and other guests, it’s nice. Providing alcohol for a gathering or dinner can get expensive quickly, so it’s a nice way to take some of that burden off a host without making them ask you to.

In addition to vegetarians, it might be nice to ask if anyone’s vegan, gluten free or lactose intolerant, since those are fairly common dietary restrictions. Most vegans are used to not having a ton of options and will often gladly eat side dishes or salad in my experience, but it’s polite to ask so you can make minor modifications to dishes. For example, if you were going to make a salad with greens, nuts, feta and dressing, you could put the feta on the side if someone’s vegan so they’re still able to eat the salad.

realsocialskills said:

It can be polite to bring wine, but be careful about that. It can put the host in a bad position if they’ve intentionally decided not to serve alcohol and you show up with an unexpected bottle of wine.

Agreed about other dietary issues. That’s a good thing to do.

I don’t know if this is a thing? But? A friend of mine hosted a potluck, and she brought out each dish *individually.* Like, courses? It was super-awkward, because people brought different amounts of each dish, like an enormous pasta dish and then a small fish dish. And then the dinner dragged on forever, and some dishes weren’t served at the right temperatures. Plus, it made people feel obligated to eat things they didn’t want, just because everyone was passing the plate around and it seemed rude not to take it. 

So, don’t do this. Either make the dinner a buffet (which is the easiest type of party for everyone, imo, both practically and emotionally) or put out all the dishes at once. It doesnt’ matter if all the food doesn’t go together, people can decide how they want to eat, or they can get up for seconds if they don’t want to eat two particular flavors together.

Another thing: especially with a buffet or appetizers, plan for how people eat, including grazers. For example, if you put out shelled nuts or endamame, put out an empty bowl so people can discard the empty shells. If you have a communal pot of coffee, you can cut down on dishes by setting out a few stirring spoons on a saucer and one spoon in the sugar. Most people will have enough sense to spoon sugar with the dry sugar spoon, and stir with the wet stirring spoon, and then leave it on the saucer for the next person. 

When doing a buffet: tell people to arrive about 45 minutes before you set out dinner. Have appetizerrs set out at the arrival time. After everyone except people who are chronically late have arrived, announce that dinner is being put out (you can dispatch helpful people to round up far-flung guests outside, in the tv room, etc). About 45 minutes after dinner has started, start putting away perishables. Ask people if they want seconds, etc. Depending on what dessert is and the time-table for the party, dinner cleanup and dessert can happen anywhere from half an hour to two hours after that. 

If it’s a daytime party, brew coffee after dinner. There’s always people who get tired at parties or didn’t sleep well, or whatevever. Everyone likes coffee at parties.

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Social skills for autonomous people: Attending potlucks without cooking

realsocialskills:

If you want to go to a potluck dinner, but don’t want to or can’t cook anything, ice cream can be a good thing to bring.

There are other things people who don’t want to or can’t…

Do all of the above!

Ice cream punch
1 gallon rainbow Sherbert or vanilla ice cream
Several liters of sprite
Pieces of strawberry/pineapple
Mix in a large punch bowl at the party
It gets creamy and frothy and delicious

There are other recipes online that involve fancier ingredients too.

Just thought of another idea. Fancier items would be received well. Instead of chips and dip you could get a tub of hummus and huge bag of pita chips from Costco. Same idea as the chips and dip, but it has a novelty factor. Costco also has bulk veggie spring rolls that can be microwaved or baked, pre-cooked falafel, dolmas, etc.

Attending potlucks without cooking

aura218:

realsocialskills:

If you want to go to a potluck dinner, but don’t want to or can’t cook anything, ice cream can be a good thing to bring.

There are other things people who don’t want to or can’t cook sometimes bring, and they’re not rude exactly, but people who bring those things are often perceived as lazy or miserly. Some examples:

  • sodas
  • wine
  • chips
  • a box of store-bought cookies

Ice cream is not any more difficult or expensive than these things, but it’s perceived differently. Since ice cream is not an expected default potluck food, if you bring it, you get to be the guy who brought unexpected ice cream. Almost any crowd will contain a good percentage of people who are *very* pleased by unexpected ice cream.

If it is a vegan potluck, there are some pretty good non-dairy ice creams now. (So Delicious coconut milk ice cream is nice; so is Tofutti.) Sorbet is also a decent non-dairy option, although it isn’t quite as viscerally welcome as ice cream.

(I’ve also seen people bring pizzas with similar results, although I have not tried that myself).

This is a really good idea. Everyone loves ice cream and you can get it on the way there.

A salad is good, too, or a vegetable platter w/ dip (store-bought dip is fine). Mixing, not cooking. (Chopping, tho, unless you buy pre-chopped, which is more spensive.) You have to bring the dressings, so bring a variety of ~4 very different types, and don’t expect to get them back. You  can bring the stuff in ziplock bags in assemble at the party.

Social skills for autonomous people: Attending potlucks without cooking

magicalmantislanoha:

realsocialskills:

If you want to go to a potluck dinner, but don’t want to or can’t cook anything, ice cream can be a good thing to bring.

There are other things people who don’t want to or can’t cook sometimes bring, and they’re not rude exactly, but people who bring those things are often perceived as lazy or…

I have also seen good results from those huge veggie trays with dip. While people bring them a lot nowadays, in my circles at least they are incredibly popular. Probably because ice cream melts between the car and the office here.
Also, if you bring one of the easy ones, and say you didn’t have time to cook or you were out of an ingredient and these looked good.
The issue with store-bought cookies and cake/cupcakes is they don’t taste very good in comparison. This can be mitigated on the cookie front by not bringing in typical chocolate chip cookies - actually but them in the cookie aisle not the bakery and put them on a tray yourself. And avoid oatmeal raisin - even people who like raisins hate stealth raisins when they expect chocolate chips.
If all else fails, offer to bring plates, cups, napkins and cutlery. These things are often forgotten and being that person makes you a hero to those who have had to eat off paper towels in the past.

Attending potlucks without cooking

Attending potlucks without cooking

If you want to go to a potluck dinner, but don’t want to or can’t cook anything, ice cream can be a good thing to bring.

There are other things people who don’t want to or can’t cook sometimes bring, and they’re not rude exactly, but people who bring those things are often perceived as lazy or miserly. Some examples:

  • sodas
  • wine
  • chips
  • a box of store-bought cookies

Ice cream is not any more difficult or expensive than these things, but it’s perceived differently. Since ice cream is not an expected default potluck food, if you bring it, you get to be the guy who brought unexpected ice cream. Almost any crowd will contain a good percentage of people who are *very* pleased by unexpected ice cream.

If it is a vegan potluck, there are some pretty good non-dairy ice creams now. (So Delicious coconut milk ice cream is nice; so is Tofutti.) Sorbet is also a decent non-dairy option, although it isn’t quite as viscerally welcome as ice cream.

(I’ve also seen people bring pizzas with similar results, although I have not tried that myself).